Monday 21 October 2013

Salford Council Is Run By Idiots

See, this is why I love e-cigs. They are increasingly showing up anti-smokers as a rich seam of hilarious farce.

From Manchester Evening News:
A town hall has banned its workers from using electronic cigarettes ‘in public view’. 
Salford council has banned staff from using the devices – which taste and feel like cigarettes without the tar – close to any of its buildings. 
The policy, drawn up by town hall bosses, says: “Where smoking does takes place outside, the location should be out of public view wherever possible and must not be: 
– Directly outside buildings
– Constitute a risk in terms of fire;
– Be adjacent to doors or windows where second hand smoke could enter the building.
E-cigs (which are not alight) constitute a fire risk now? And emit second hand smoke despite not involving anything being burned? Do Salford councillors have extraordinarily large feet, bulbous bright red round noses and a car that falls apart when they slam a door?
A report prepared for a town hall meeting says these rules should also apply to e-cigarettes because they ‘resemble’ normal cigarettes.
Oh, I see, that part was about smoking. Err, but wasn't the policy to tackle fire risks and mythical second hand smoke? But e-cigs 'resemble' things that might - in the far-fetched imagination of a gullible Salford councillor - constitute a fire risk so they have to be banned too. Even if they don't let off wisps of smoke which are dwarfed by carbon monoxide from that fucking great ring road ploughing through Salford.
And the policy, sent to all staff, threatens to fine them - or even take them to court - if they are caught with cigarettes on council property.
Because a court of law will instantly issue a suspended prison sentence or hefty fine for possession of tobacco under the well-known parliamentary, err, Possession of a Legal Product Act. Huh?
It says: “Breaches of the policy will be dealt with in accordance with normal disciplinary procedures and may also be subject to formal action such as fixed penalty notices or a prosecution as detailed in the regulations made under the Health Act 2006.”
You know, that Health Act 2006 which famously banned smoking outside of buildings and the use of e-cigs in public places.

Firstly, have Salford councillors even seen an e-cig? Have they any clue what they entail outside of propaganda spread by their socialist fuckwit chums? Do they understand that court cases rely on laws being real rather than ones that exist only in their fantasies?

This is not a product of Salford's simpletons. This has been drawn up by people who receive money from the city's taxpayers and are apparently trusted to spend it wisely. They are responsible for teaching kids yet seem to be as incapable of independent thought as a decapitated chimp. How scary is that?

Or it could just be that Manchester is pitching for the title of Britain's most pathetic city with Salford as the jewel in its insane lefty crown?

Little wonder the BBC feels so comfy there.


12 comments:

Norman Brand said...

I used to think devolution and decentralisation was a good thing. It seems to me now that it is a job creation scheme for the mediocre.

SteveW said...

Next day I have off I'm bobbing over to see how big a vapour cloud i can create outside Salford Council offices - maybe drag a group of my regular customers down with me as well.
Ignorant fucktards.

reekie said...

This is the proof of the complete failure of the smoking lobby when bonkers ideas like this get inroduced, the extemists have no opposition whatsoever and will introduce more and more outrageous bans.

Smoking lobbyists have had several years to sort themseleves out , but instead they are a completely unknown force amongst million of smokers and have decided to convince themseleves that smoking is harmless.

Pro smokers you get what you deserve., and its quite funny watching the smokerloonies outrage whilst remaining anonymous.

HOW THE FUCK WILL YOU CHANGE ANYTHING WHILST YOU ALL HIDE BEHIND FAKE NAMES , YOUR LEADER SIMON CLARK DOES NOT SMOKE AND YOU BELIEVE SMOKING DOES NOT KILL.

Denial is not just about smoking but common sense too.


Rickie

reekie said...

Moderation eh?

self imposed sanctions..lol

keep it up...i may post again within the next year or so.

REEKY said...

This is the proof of the complete failure of the smoking lobby when bonkers ideas like this get inroduced, the extemists have no opposition whatsoever and will introduce more and more outrageous bans.

Smoking lobbyists have had several years to sort themseleves out , but instead they are a completely unknown force amongst million of smokers and have decided to convince themseleves that smoking is harmless.

Pro smokers you get what you deserve., and its quite funny watching the smokerloonies outrage whilst remaining anonymous.

HOW THE FUCK WILL YOU CHANGE ANYTHING WHILST YOU ALL HIDE BEHIND FAKE NAMES , YOUR LEADER SIMON CLARK DOES NOT SMOKE AND YOU BELIEVE SMOKING DOES NOT KILL.

Denial is not just about smoking but common sense too.


RICKIE

Ivan D said...

I partly agree Norman but in a sense, people get what they deserve. To quote my late grandma "they would vote for a monkey dressed in red" in Salford. They would and as a consequence they might be better off led by monkey's. Salford council is awful but it is the will of those who elect it. My only concern is that the stupid and illiberal attitude of Salford Council may infect others and have an adverse impact on the rest of us.

westcoast2 said...

Are e-pipes included? Is a box mod still an e-cig? But don't ask me .....Oh well.....

DP said...

Dear Mr Puddlecote


I feel a Stony Stratford moment coming on ...


One hopes that people whose livelihoods depend upon the public purse (as laundered through a body politic) might have as much principle as their paymasters (the public, in case they were in any doubt) as to support the same in a demonstration against the manifest stupidity of the council. Perhaps a few hundred smoking, vaping and neither voters congregating outside the premises of the council might help them take a more relaxed view?


One can but hope.



DP

DP said...

Dear Mr Puddlecote


Might I respectfully suggest that you amend the time stamp to be a fixed rather than relative stamp. I.e. replace 'a few seconds ago' et sequencia (ideally to my mind) with '11.50pm Monday, 21 October 2013' .


By the way it is my birthday tomorrow (4 minutes away) - one of my 3 a year (increased to 6 as required by the ash/nhs starttober campaign).


DP

Billy Webb said...

This shows just how misunderstood e-cigarettes are. The council clearly haven't taken the time to understand how an electronic cigarette works or to look upon them as a separate entity. As a retailer of electronic cigarettes I encounter this level of ignorance quite a lot, it would be nice to see some time taken by people to understand what they are talking about.

JonathanBagley said...

Salford Council should phone up Salford University and ask why it decided to permit ecig use outside of public areas.

Junican said...

This is part of a concerted plan, DP. The North West (and the North East) is a hot spot of smoking. I doubt that the actual councillors had much to do with it other than to rubber stamp the proposal. Salford "Wellbeing" Dept will have dreamed it up.
The plan started with Wigan Council who banned ecigs in its buildings and vehicles. Now TC has moved over to Salford to take the next step as indicated.
It is up to Salford people and Council employees to protest. If they do not, then they are daft. Despite the fact that Unions generally are in favour of smoking bans, you would think that the Employees union would draw the line at their smoking and vaping members being singled out for persecution in this way.